The GUS Daily Digest Friday, 9 June 1995 Volume 23 : Number 009 Today's Topics: Megaem 3.04b joystick problem with nascar racing Instrument Loading .... Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 Changing GUS settings in an OS/2 VDM os/2 user, megaem beta doesn't work, IW compat., John Smith parity RAM does NOT determine NMI support !! Re: NMI, PCI, Parity, GUS Drivers & Emulators Re: The digest Re: joystick problem with nascar racing Re: parity RAM does NOT determine NMI support !! Re: NMI, PCI, Parity, GUS Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 GusMax kit for sale reply: Satan Cyberia things I will try. Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: not.bill.gates@microsoft.com Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:02:45 BST Subject: Megaem 3.04b Hi all To the guy who says megaem3.04b does not produce FX in sensible soccer - It doesn't produces FX in doom either (at least on my machine). To the guy who deleted mega304.zip in favour of mega304b.zip - Are you positive you deleted the right one? I am pretty certain it was mega304b.zip that was currupt. To the guy who says there's a politician in the UK by the name of John Smith - I'm afraid he died some time ago, so he probably knows even less than you thought he did about the next gus :) ------------------------------ From: Boaz.Chow@mcws.fidonet.org (Boaz Chow) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 95 12:30:20 PDT Subject: joystick problem with nascar racing Hi guys! I am having problem using my joystick with Nascar Racing. If I disabled all the sound fx/midi etc, my joystick worked. However, if I enable any sound, the joystick started to jump up and down, left and right. Is there any way to fix this problem? - -- : Boaz Chow - via mcws.fidonet.org - Public Access (213)256-8371 : ARPA/INTERNET: Boaz.Chow@mcws.fidonet.org : UUCP: ...!bengal!mcws!Boaz.Chow : Compu$erve: >internet:Boaz.Chow@mcws.fidonet.org ------------------------------ From: Ivar Svendsen Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 14:21:47 METDST Subject: Instrument Loading .... Hi any GUS Coders!! I'm trying to make a player for S3M modules, but have met a problem setting the loop start/end points correct. This problem comes specially on short looped instruments (like down to 32 samples). The loop was good when I adjusted the FRACTION of the start/end points .... Do anyone know about some way to automaticly detect how to adjust the fraction part ? Alpha Centauri / Mistery (Ivar Svendsen) ------------------------------ From: d0berg@dtek.chalmers.se (Lars-Ake Berg) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 14:48:54 +0000 Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 Hi Boys & Girls! I have a question that someone here could answer. I have a GUS of pretty early revision, and I wonder how and what do I need to attach a CD-ROM to the connector on the GUS?? Is there any special sort of drive Mitsumi, Sony or NEC that GUS works with? Please give me a hint on this one. /Lars-Ake Berg - ---- I really wish I had a cool signature file. ------------------------------ From: rjm@dciem.dnd.ca (Robert Manley) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Changing GUS settings in an OS/2 VDM "Bjarni R. Einarsson" wrote: > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:44:13 +0000 (GMT) > Subject: Gus, OS/2 and dos4gw.. (speed up descent & doom) > > Hello Gussers :) > > A few weeks back somebody mentioned the PmodeW replacement for the > DOS4GW stub for programs like Doom and Descent. Last night I finally > got around to testing it, and I thought I'd share my experiences. > > PmodeW dramatically increases game speed under OS/2 WARP. I highly > recommend using it if you are currently booting DOS just to play Doom > or Descent.... > > Unfortunately it didn't (hasn't yet?) solve the GUS trouble with > Doom under OS/2 (it made it worse, before I got music only, now I > get nothing). And for some STRANGE reason it kills my mouse with > Descent. (Help?) You could try using the MPU-401 emulation under DOOM and see if that still works. > Other OS/2 + GUS + Game speed trickes I've discovered: > > + Install the GUS sound drivers - this seems to reduce the delay > caused by the GUS generating interrupts for the games. Speed > increases noticably with Descent. (I'm testing the Manley ones > at the moment) It was written to do exactly this. > + Do NOT enable HW_TIMER unless games really need it - more than > one game I've tried has sped up ALOT when I set this to OFF. > Also this means that games and DOS programs multitask more > nicely together. Although the system does multitask better, I usually have to set it on. > And some questions: :-) > > Can anyone tell me what happens if I 'change' the GUS interrupts/DMA > channels from within a DOS box under OS/2? I do this by resetting the > ULTRASND variable, and then calling Ultrinit. Does it really change > things, or does the driver just fake it? This is a scary venture indeed. The driver doesn't fake out the entire card because doing that would slow things down tremendously. If you do this, you're doing it! This could cause some strange things to happen until the next time you use the card in OS/2 when the driver resets the interface parameters. > How do I fix my mouse+PmodeW problem (it dies with Descent, but works > fine with Doom)? Can't help you there. Robert. - -- Robert J. Manley President, Multi-Player Computer Adventures Inc. Aurora, Ontario, CANADA E-mail at DCIEM: rjm@dciem.dnd.ca ------------------------------ From: Sam Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 14:59:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: os/2 user, megaem beta doesn't work, IW compat., John Smith > because of the crap lies about supporting non-DOS OSs, the 'protected mode' > (yeah, right) SBOS (er, Megaem) and that goddamn RING0 Win 3.11 driver. Ring0 is fine, as long as you use Win 3.11. Doesn't cause any problems. P-mode megaem is a beta, which is why it doesn't work. (unless you have an old GUS like we do, in which case you can hardly expect them to somehow magic up hardware general midi support). The only REAL problem there that's their fault is the no support for OS other than DOS and Windows. [About new Mega-em] > This is driving me mad as everybody is raving about how Gravis has (finally) > cracked it, and I'm stuck in an even worse postion than before. How so? You now have a choice of emulators; no-one's stopping you using the old ones. > There has been some false info about interwave's compatibility > on this digest.. Here are some facts from AMD docs: Thanks for posting. That's what I predicted ages ago (someone shot me down, and I had to admit I wasn't 100% sure.. but i was right anyway ;> ) Are these docs net-available or only on paper? If you have them in digital form and they're not secret or anything, could you upload to an ftp site? [I guess you don't, or you would have, but anyway]. > "Gravis pioneered the use of downloadable wavetable synthesizers on sound > cards.[!] The Interwave IC is backward compatible with the GUS" Why the '!'? Gravis was the first soundcard with wavetable synth, save the "music-professionals only" Turtle Beach card (cost over $600, I think). > > it is causing the double-posting to the digest. Please fix so that we > > can still say yes to reply to all recipients, but single postings to > > digest. If not, I will say "no." Also, it would be great if you can Say "no". The reply to all recipients is unnecessary; everyone can still read your message, even those on the list not digest. > Who's John Smith? There's a politician in our country with that name. If it's > him, then I doubt he knows a lot about the next GUS :) Especially since he died last year. John Smith is a Gravis employee. It's not an uncommon name... ;) Sam ------------------------------ From: gt0074b@prism.gatech.edu (P.Chen) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: parity RAM does NOT determine NMI support !! Ok guys, for all those worrying about NMI being phased out because of the perception that motherboards won't support parity RAM: NMI (NON-MASKABLE INTERRUPT) is not solely tied to RAM parity-checking. In the olden days, when the PC sucked, NMI was used exclusively for parity checking. However, NMI is an interrupt just like any other, and can, in fact, be masked. It's an odd thing, but there are lots of odd things in Intel's 80x86 line of processors. So in summary, parity-RAM support does not determine whether a board supports NMI. You'll have to contact the manufacturer and look at the specs or take a motherboard home and try it out to be sure. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Batchelor wrote: > As always, only the cheap-o Taiwan, Inc boards are failing to do so. I think a quote from Jeff Blauser shares my sentiments: "Hey, screw you buddy." ------------------------------ From: "Jason I. Goldovitz" Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: NMI, PCI, Parity, GUS Hi gus people, First thing: Explanation of NMI... There are two kinds of interrupts - software and hardware. Software interrupts are generated by DOS or your O/S. They break into your program (only one physical program can run at a time, remember?) and do stuff in the background. The problem is that these can be disabled, and are by most dos extenders. Enter Hardware interrupts... these occur every once in a while. However, the most usable (and the only one you can't shut down or fuck with) is NMI. The MB designers realized this, and thus the IBM spec says all boards must have NMI. I side with the guy who said that Win95 probably uses it... it would have to, to get hardware multitasking... otherwise, there's no way to get control back from a nasty program which uses dos4gw. Second thing: Since NMI is part of the spec, if your motherboard doesn't have it, you have a _NON_COMPATIBLE_MOTHERBOARD_. The new boards with PCI and no parity still have NMI, at least some of them do. They have to if they want to stay compatible... IT'S IN THE BLOODY SPEC! Oh, well. - Jason ------------------------------ From: Celtic Matrix Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 19:33:07 PDT Subject: Drivers & Emulators Is win95 going to support the GUS (MAX) ? to the dude who wants to write a NT driver : go for it ... at least SOMEBODY can help us ... :) Why doens't gravis make an emulator like SBOS, but which uses patches ? CM. - ------------------------------------- Name : Celtic Matrix E-mail: celtic@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net Date : 06/08/95 Time : 19:33:07 - ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ct91@cityscape.co.uk (Damian Scully) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 19:02:27 +0100 Subject: Re: The digest To the guy who wrote saying something about the digest being to long, and messages being made shorter. Is'nt it a good thing that more and more people are being weaned off those crappy Sound Bastard's and coming over to the GUS? I have only had my GUS and been on the Digest for about 5 months, and in that time I have seen a great increase in the amount of postings to the digest. You should be happy that more people are buying GUS's, and also that experienced Gusser's are helping out the newbie's among us. Anyway got to go, I'm in the middle of my bloody GCSE's. Which reminds me, I'm 16 and want to become a professional programmer, anyone got any advice? +----------------------------------------------------+ | Damian Scully | | Hopeful Programmer | | E-mail - ct91@cityscape.co.uk | | WWW - http://www.gold.net/users/ct91/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: -Vince- Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: joystick problem with nascar racing On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Boaz Chow wrote: Hi everyone, > I am having problem using my joystick with Nascar Racing. If I > disabled all the sound fx/midi etc, my joystick worked. However, if I enable > any sound, the joystick started to jump up and down, left and right. Is there > any way to fix this problem? Hmmm, how do you actually set Nascar Racing up so the joystick will work? > -- > : Boaz Chow - via mcws.fidonet.org - Public Access (213)256-8371 > : ARPA/INTERNET: Boaz.Chow@mcws.fidonet.org > : UUCP: ...!bengal!mcws!Boaz.Chow > : Compu$erve: >internet:Boaz.Chow@mcws.fidonet.org Cheers, - -Vince- vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu - GUS Mailing Lists Admin UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95 SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free! ------------------------------ From: -Vince- Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: parity RAM does NOT determine NMI support !! On Thu, 8 Jun 1995, P.Chen wrote: Hi everyone, > Ok guys, for all those worrying about NMI being phased out because of > the perception that motherboards won't support parity RAM: > NMI (NON-MASKABLE INTERRUPT) is not solely tied to RAM parity-checking. > In the olden days, when the PC sucked, NMI was used exclusively for parity > checking. However, NMI is an interrupt just like any other, and can, in > fact, be masked. It's an odd thing, but there are lots of odd things > in Intel's 80x86 line of processors. > So in summary, parity-RAM support does not determine whether a board > supports NMI. You'll have to contact the manufacturer and look at the > specs or take a motherboard home and try it out to be sure. > That is indeed true since the new Intel Triton chipset based motherboards does not have parity checking but it does support NMI, just not the parity checking portion of it... > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Mike Batchelor wrote: > > As always, only the cheap-o Taiwan, Inc boards are failing to do so. > > I think a quote from Jeff Blauser shares my sentiments: > "Hey, screw you buddy." > > Cheers, - -Vince- vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu - GUS Mailing Lists Admin UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95 SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free! ------------------------------ From: -Vince- Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: NMI, PCI, Parity, GUS On Thu, 8 Jun 1995, Jason I. Goldovitz wrote: Hello fellow GUSers, > First thing: Explanation of NMI... > > There are two kinds of interrupts - software and hardware. > Software interrupts are generated by DOS or your O/S. They break into > your program (only one physical program can run at a time, remember?) > and do stuff in the background. The problem is that these can be > disabled, and are by most dos extenders. > > Enter Hardware interrupts... these occur every once in a > while. However, the most usable (and the only one you can't shut down > or fuck with) is NMI. The MB designers realized this, and thus the IBM > spec says all boards must have NMI. I side with the guy who said that > Win95 probably uses it... it would have to, to get hardware > multitasking... otherwise, there's no way to get control back from a > nasty program which uses dos4gw. > > Second thing: > > Since NMI is part of the spec, if your motherboard doesn't > have it, you have a _NON_COMPATIBLE_MOTHERBOARD_. The new boards with > PCI and no parity still have NMI, at least some of them do. They have > to if they want to stay compatible... IT'S IN THE BLOODY SPEC! > Atleast the Intel Triton chipsets motherboards do... > Oh, well. > > - Jason Cheers, - -Vince- vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu - GUS Mailing Lists Admin UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95 SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free! ------------------------------ From: Marty Danko -Khertz- Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 Hi people, Has anyone got Dark Forces to work with the max(1mb)? I keep getting corupted insturments!!! It says in the readme file that the max may produce corupted insturments. I e-mailed lucal arts and they said gravis worte the drivers in the imuse.exe engine(drivers). So what up? Gravis cant make drivers for there own card that work :)? Thanks please respond if you have it up and running! btw: I have a 486dx2 66mhz 8mb ram and have tried diferent dmas, and irqs and my bus speed and all that.... what am I doing wrong? I also used the bootmaker thiny, all it does is remove any unnecsary lines form autoexec.bat and config.sys ......... - -Marty Danko (mdanko@dhs.ucdavis.edu) ------------------------------ From: ghidali@VNET.IBM.COM Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 18:28:39 EDT Subject: GusMax kit for sale I have a GusMax kit for sale. It includes: 1 Gravis Ultrasound Max with 1meg DRAM, box, docs, disks. 1 Gravis Ultrasound Experience CDROM-Loaded w/goodies for GUS 1 Mitsumi 2x CDROM-Plugs into the GUS This kit works great and has given me 8 months of fine service, Unfortunatly, I run Windows NT, and Warp, for which no Gus drivers are available (alpha does not count, as I need a stable development platform) I am offering this for US$275 which includes packaging and shipping. Mail me at GHIDALI@VNET.IBM.COM Happy Gussing! Dan ------------------------------ From: emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no (Emil Rakoczy) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 22:40:04 +0100 Subject: reply: Satan From: Bryan Maher Date: Wed, 07 Jun 95 09:04:27 EDT Subject: Re: Shitty digest and dumb returning >Hey EmilR, >>Either something has to be done about the digest and how it handles mail, or >>silvert has to be kicked out. This is the second time it happens, >>and I wont accept it again. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >who died and left you god? Like it or not, I wont accept it again! I'm not shure if your brain is developing in the same speed as your body probably is, cause there are some major details that you have missed. The digest is a product made for us, the everyday GUSsers. It's made for us! See? And if I'm not happy about it, then I'll have to complain a little. IF nobody complains, then there will be no improval, and I expect that most of you agree with me in this case. Giant digest with lotsa repostings sucks. And if you take a bit of your precious time and read the whole digest, then you will see that I'm not alone. Several other people have complained about just the same thing. >How old did you say you were ... 12? >Satan. I must say that I'm impressed of your amazingly and breath-taking form of argumenting. You've almost convinced me that I'm wrong. Almost. There's only one thing wrong with your tactic: the arguments. They are missing. Well, I really must congratulate you with your scary(thumbs up!) and *mature* nickname. I'm surprised that there are no Dr. or Mr. in front of it. It's all the same: lame!(poetry, eh?) So... If you haven't got any reeeaaaal good arguments counting for the side that you're defending(I must asume that you're defending the other side since you're attacking my point of wiev), more repostings in the digest, then with the powers that God has given me, I say: Begone you foul beast from the netherworlds.. EmilR "Words are turds!" *****THE_FANCY_SIGNATURE****** * Realtime:Emil Rakoczy * * Nickname:Lurking Puppet * * IRC:Lurking * * E-Mail:emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no* ******To be expanded...******* ------------------------------ From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Cyberia things I will try. I just got Cyberia, which is disappointing, because it has awesome graphics that scream for wavetable, but offers only Sound Blaster support. Running SBOS crashes. Running Maxsbos crashes as well (although with a regular UltraSound, I expected at least music to work). I ran it with the /x option. I also ran it with the /c option (although my motherboard has NMI). I ran it with /x /c. I thought running it at /x would work, because according to the readme file, it mentioned that Cyberia was a game that dies, due to a very "subtle defect" in the DOS4GW, but that this can be worked around with the /x option. I ran Mega-Em 3.04b, hoping that perhaps I can get SB effects. Mega-Em was able to run without causing a crash, but everything was silent. (If only Mega-Em supported SB FM support!). Since Gravis's technobabble said there was a very "subtle defect" in the DOS4GW, I will try replace it with PMODE and see if MAXSBOS will work. But since they said they were working on it, I'll try complaining to them and Interplay to see if a patch has come out yet. -Peter ------------------------------ From: Thaddaeus Kong Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 14:08:58 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 > From: sniiran@freenet.hut.fi (Samuli Niiranen) > Subject: Interwave compatibility.. > > There has been some false info about interwave's compatibility > on this digest.. Here are some facts from AMD docs: What false info? > Gravis Ultrasound NATIVE API > > "Gravis pioneered the use of downloadable wavetable synthesizers on sound > cards.[!] The Interwave IC is backward compatible with the GUS" Yes, but the GUS is not UPWARD compatible with the IW. Unless of course GF1 suddenly can address 16MB (megaBITS) of RAM and ROM. > General MIDI MPU-401 API > > "The Interwave General Midi API provides a compact driver [MegaEM?] > based on a complete set of MPU-401 hardware registers..." > > Adlib and Sound Blaster EMULATION > > "SBOS [argghh!!] is an emulator providing backward compability with software > written for FM synthesizers and digital audio protocol used on older first- > and second-generation [SBpro?] sound cards." Me thinks SB 1.0 and SB 2.0, not SB Pro. > According to the documents Interwave IC has register address traps, adlib > timers and interrupt generation functions for FM emulation. So the emulation > is PARTLY hardware. This is what GUS rev 3.xx card do, they have those nifty new NMI for SB/GMIDI emulation but is still driven by software. Think about it, EVERYTHING must be at least PARTLY hardware or else why should I plug in a card? ];-> Oh, and everyone, in the press release I read, there was no mention of IW having OS/2 drivers, and since Gravis is providing software for the IW, that means Gravis doesn't have OS/2 drivers to include right? Good news for Win9x waiters though, they should have Win9x drivers. - -- Thaddaeus Kong tk@molly.cs.monash.edu.au I hate people who don't finish their ------------------------------ From: Jeff Angeles Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 On Thu, 8 Jun 1995, Mark Woon wrote: > > From: Mark Woon > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:46:23 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: System Shock Demo and GUS? > > Hi everybody. > > I know everybody is trying to get GUS to work with Magic Carpet right > now, and so am I, but in the mean time, I'd like to try playing the > System Shock demo with sound fx AND music. Is this possible? Is there > a patch? Thanks. > Which System Shock demo are you talking about? If it is the one in CD (e.g. PC Gamer), it should support it natively. Execpt, there is one problem. The ones who put it on the CD _somehow_ forgot to add the 32-bit AIL drivers (wonder if it is Origin's or PC Gamer's fault). The only way to correct it is to copy ALL 40+ MB of stuff onto hard drive, then add the 32-bit AIL drivers (gusmid32.dll and gusdig32.dll) where all of the other 32-bit AIL drivers are located (can't remember which directory it is). Then, run LOADPATS, setup/install (whatever it is), and you're all set to go. Now if it is the one from the internet, or some BBS (approx 3-4MB zipped), it should work just fine (haven't tried it out myself). If not, the process is similar to the above (just add the 32-bit GUS AIL drivers, or copy them over another AIL driver). Any questions, just reply. Hope this helps, and keep on GUSsing. Jeff Angeles ------------------------------ From: rorr@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Richard Peter ORR) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 13:03:10 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 > > From: Chris McKillop > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:27:32 -0400 > Subject: NMI and why it used.... > > Has anyone tried installed Win95 on a computer without NMI??? > It wouldn't supprise me in the least if you had problems...and you > won't be able to use MIDI either, since it uses NMI in Windows....NMI > is part of the spec and only added about $25 bcuks to the cost of > my new Pentium, so as far as I am concerend, thoses with NMIless > motherboards have cheap computers... > > Chris Just so you don't confuse potential Pentium customers, Win95 and the Ultrasound drivers run just fine on an NMI-less motherboard, I'm using them now. .Richard. ------------------------------ From: Adrian Johnson Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 03:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #37 On Fri, 9 Jun 1995, Richard Peter ORR stated > > Just so you don't confuse potential Pentium customers, Win95 and the > Ultrasound drivers run just fine on an NMI-less motherboard, I'm using > them now. > > .Richard. I also have a NMI less motherboard (but not nearly cheap...enough) and run win '95 and everything in windows works superbly and I even had to rig up a sound connection from my toshiba quad to my MAX. The only problem I have (and this pre-dates windows) is that dos games start off w/ proper sound and then gradually degrade into chirps and pops the longer I play. If I stop the game and reload the patches it is temporarily fixed again (games include doom2, heretic, relentless, MK2, ect). I was wondering if this is a defect in my MAX's memory or just a mistake on my part? 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